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This one against juan and maria, new jersey what the local news stories will look like in the sanctuary cities. you have the county sheriff, the local cop, the state policeman on one side, the i.c.e. agent on the other. everybody is pointing at the i.c.e. agent and -- >> harris: but when you look at statistically where we have been, both the ramp-up and then after the presidential election, people don't necessarily see the movie playing out in your head. what they say is a president who's keeping his campaign promises in terms of stemming the tide of illegals coming across the border so on and...

Her. >> there was an investigation about whether or not she detained him. when she showed up to this accident, there were three different collisions involve. he was one of the people involved. she ran his driver's license. when she did, there was a hit for my federal agency that said this is a previously deported felons. we need you to contact us for more information. >> bill: let me stop you. the state trooper runs the license, as they bored in any accident, and there is a hit. police detained because the person has been deported four times. i don't know whether the drug felony was on the she...

It. i foresee not only legal conflict, sean, but i foresee conflict between imagine a state or local cop, they say an ice agent and the cop saying to the ice agent, you shouldn't be in here. you know, this is a courtroom. we don't want you -- i see the potential for conflict. i think everyone's got to cool it down. >> sean: you may be very well right. sheriff clarke, that's a problem. this is a breakdown in civil society. it becomes lawlessness when you have states and municipalities deciding which laws they want to obey and which laws they refuse to obey and are willing to aid and abet crimin...

California does not appreciate -- i foresee not only legal conflict but i foresee conflict between a state or local cop facing an i.c.e. agent and the cop saying you shouldn't be in here. this is a court room, we don't want you. i see a potential conflict. i think everyone has to cool it. >> sean: you may be very well right. sheriff clark, that is a problem though because this is a breakdown in civil society. it becomes lawlessness when you have states, municipalities choosing which laws they will obey or disobey. and they will aid and embed criminals. >> first of all, happy st. patrick's day,...

California does not appreciate -- i foresee not only legal conflict but i foresee conflict between a state or local cop facing an i.c.e. agent and the cop saying you shouldn't be in here. this is a court room, we don't want you. i see a potential conflict. i think everyone has to cool it. >> sean: you may be very well right. sheriff clark, that is a problem though because this is a breakdown in civil society. it becomes lawlessness when you have states, municipalities choosing which laws they will obey or disobey. and they will aid and embed criminals. >> first of all, happy st. patrick's day,...