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>> here's my issue. >> they have no replacement plan. really what this whole abolish ice effort is, it's a big call for open borders. >> that's not true. >> people want stricter enforcement of the current immigration laws. that is what people want. the ice enforces inside of our borders, and people don't want to just turn a blind eye, and say we no longer have a sovereign country. it's not even just immigration policy, ice handles drug traffickers and human traffickers, this is important, to say that we want to go and abolish ice is so far out side of the mainstream, this is why democrats are ...

What happens to physical conservatism. >> i hear you. >> are you making a new answered position, there's been a vulnerability. >> 100%. that's not what the party people are saying, the elected officials and -- >> it's not the party people. i talked to -- >> chris, we can cut through the nonanswer here. >> no, no, she's giving an answer. >> it's not a nonanswer. >> she's giving you a new answered take on it. but a lot of the lawmakers, the reason you jumped on it early, the reason trump is jumping on it, they gave you an opportunity. abolish ice. >> here's my issue. >> they have no replacement ...

Have been deported before but it reentered. judge ordered this man, found pumping gas, deported in 1996. two years ago he was convicted of lewd acts with a minor. >> you're telling me you don't speak english? >> no, un poquito. >> forcing i.c.e. to find them here. >> we are enforcing the laws as they are written here. >> this i.c.e. effort is the latest fight between the state of california and the federal government which says it will enforce the law, century state or not. >> california better hold on tight. they are about to see a lot more federal agents. >> sanctuary for all. >> california ...