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You end up disappointing the president, frustrated by you, there's a lot of reports that say shine was not living up to expectations, but trump's problem is not communication. it's not bill shine's fault that the president is embroiled in scandal. maggie has beenerman put it well, and paul begala did as well. the titanic didn't have -- it would an iceberg problem. why give fox the legitimacy? but does this decision make democrats look weak? >> not at all. i think you state it had first in your prepass that rnc -- excuse me -- foxes in hasn't had a dnc debate for a number of year. in 2016 i b...

Clearly the turnovers been -- it's not just communications we've seen it. i think we've had four national security advisers, we see this revolving door -- >> secretary of state. >> in all cases, it is a very much difficulty of knowing what the president wants, what he's doing and not having any ability to represent his interests because you don't really know what he's going to be saying himself. >> i it note -- the titanic did not have a communications problem. it had an iceberg problem. our thanks to all of you. it's one of the biggest festivals attracting the biggest name in tech, film and...

Not just from a communications perspective but letting mr. porter continue in his job knowing it was inevitable this would come out. they made it worse and defied the first rule of holes, when you're in one stop digging too fast and the communications response. if you're in a crisis communication, you have to slow down, try to get the facts, get everything you know and do the time line that you know is to be accurate. a book was written about it, a good one but you have to get the story out and donald trump needs to tell people it was a mistake and things are changed but i don't see him firing...