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Given how devastating the policies that president trump and the republicans made, we have the ability to take the house back. when we do, we are going to be able to hold trump and the republicans accountable as the american people are crying out for it. >> something else has been happening on capitol hill. the former secretary of homeland security testified about the russian hacks. he flat out said the dnc refused the department's help. you put out a statement saying jay johnson was wrong. where is he wrong? >> he's wrong in every respect. let me be very clear. at no point during my tenure at ...

Governor. in this case, in the key cases that have been written about, the families are very upset about it. they said they were not consu consulted beforehand. is that something you did as governor? is that common? >> that's a mistake. i made sure in every pardon i handed out of anybody in prison that met their release, icon tacted the families, explained it. i didn't say if they objected we wouldn't do it, but i got their input. it's important. if hailey didn't do that, it eegs a mistake. he's usually careful about what he does. again, i p can't speak for what he does. the law gives governor...