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Historically? what would they say to them? >> i don't know if this is -- what this is related to. >> because they don't believe in evolution. >> oh, i see what you're saying. i'm a peta board member. i don't believe on testing on animals. i love animals, i'm not that crazy about people. >> then you're perfect to talk about these guys. donald trump quit. why did he quit? did you hear the reason? i couldn't get it. >> i have this bet with id letterman a -- david letterman a couple weeks ago that he was serious. david says, no it is just a joke. i think his ego needs the white house. >> the big o...