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One of the biggest political upsets in history, those are ones that hopefully he will put to good use on behalf of all the american people. >> let's get more from our political experts. gloria, what was your main takeaway from what the president had to say about the president-elect? >> well, it was a very prudent press conference. very diplomatic. very respectful of the office of the presidency, and the incoming president with whom he disagrees on with almost everything. one thing that struck me, he made it clear that he doesn't believe that donald trump is an ide idealogue, that he's pragmati...

Opinion that we're not approving the policy, we're only saying that this is for the most part within the law. so i think many people, especially among the conservative side who expected him to essentially be an ide idealogue. a number of people are saying impeach john roberts, that's how angry some people will be. >> we appreciate you making time for us. as always, it is such a pleasure to speak with you. thank you, michael. and we will be right back with our news nation gut check.