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Plane shot down. you know, willing to sacrifice himself, you know to save his fellow comrades p.o.w. were released. >> this goes back to the core problem that donald trump has. that's he's not a disciplined man much less a disciplined politician or disciplined campaigner. when he walks out there he constantly insults anyone that he doesn't like. he says you're stupid you're dumb you're not intelligent, you're not smart enough you're not wise enough you didn't make enough money. so in this situation he just did the exact same thing he's been doing all along which is i'll rip on someone and tell...

The number one target out there. rank as one of the richest and most powerful people in the world by "forbes magazine." multiple billions of dollars in an army close to 100,000 people. this is a significant moment. >> marc, how could this go on today. 3,100,000 people out there, a huge congratulate business like a corporation that is totally illegal. >> it is. in mexico it is years and years of corruption. guzman and others have been paying off officials for years. when we would go down and work with local law enforcement, the dea guys, who are heroes in this, as are the ice and the marshals...

The imagination. >> tell us of the operation that brought him down, what you know of it so far. and are you surprised not a single shot was fired ? >> what we will find out in the coming days, it wasn't clear how much u.s. help they wanted in this effort. but chapo apparently had been hiding out on the pacific coast in mexico and had kind of a network of houses and apartments, safehouses, which were connected by a system of underground tunnels and had steel doors so when people came in and barged in one door by the time they actually got in, he would be gone. dea guys told me literally they fo...

Immigrants. look, what he was saying was true. i don't -- jeb bush is known as one of the big thinkers, idea guys, policy guys in the republican party. what he was saying is true. i think it makes some people nervous because it means it is getting -- it is the browning of america. but it is what it is. i will tell you later that day, i sent him an e-mail and said, thanks, pal, you just put me in a pickle. i'm just waiting for my mom to call and say, okay, your friend jeb says immigrants have more kids, are more fertile. you're an immigrant, what are you waiting for to give me a grandkid? so yo...

Government is salutary. i don't think the american people as a whole if you polled them would say i think the united states government can achieve what it sets out to do. chat is one of the big changes, kevin. the people used to have that confidence when we went to the moon. i'm glad to hear your confidence. >> i've got to tell you. federal government, i know that every task force in this town has fbi agents, dea guys, boston cops, massachusetts state police, hey, chris, your old boss and my old hero, tip o'neill once said, all politics is local. where i come from, so is all law enforcement. >...