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Provoke in what we're looking at in this case? >> lawrence, you're slulabsolut right. this has been raised for a long time. the first person who raised this was secretary donald rumsfeld who asked in a famous memo, are we killing more terrorists than we're creating? from my perspective, having looked at radicalization and trying to counter the message, the wars in iraq and afghanistan are very, very commonly invocced in al qaeda and al qaeda-inspired propaganda to try to recruit other individuals to the cause. although that is undoubtedly true, i have to say i think it is difficult to really c...

We're creating? from my perspective, having looked at radicalization and trying to counter the message, the wars in iraq and afghanistan are very, very commonly invocced in al qaeda and al qaeda-inspired propaganda to try to recruit other individuals to the cause. although that is undoubtedly true, i have to say i think it is difficult to really connect any one individual with these conflicts. there is no doubt, again, pictures, video of civilians being killed and the like, this is exactly what al qaeda uses to help radicalize and bring people into the idealogical fold. but again, i think just...