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>> it's knuckle-headed. i understand the theory of the defense, but what the facts are here with mr. buckner, who is the defendant in lubbock, is so outrageous that there is no jury in lubbock that is ever going to buy the defense that a brain-numbing approach to sex education is showing an eight- and nine-year-old porn on the computer? it is really a terrible situation. the good news is the children are in therapy, but you know what, this father has to pay the price of his misbehavior. >> so a lot of outrage you're expressing there. richard, where are you going to go with that? >> the problem...

>> i bet my colleague believes in me. it's going nowhere. we have an idealogical prosecutor, mr. southworth in wisconsin doesn't like the law, trying to scare teachers. no teacher is going to be indicted for child endangerment. it's absolutely ridiculous. >> richard, what do you think? >> they may be indicted, but this guy is eating too much cheese in washington. there's a statute that allows the schools to give sex education. the schools can decide whether they want to give it. the parents can have their children opt out of these cases. what the prosecutor is saying is just because they're te...