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We have, on the one hand, a very aggressive prosecutor inject smith, the doj would say we pursue justice about the -- your favor is absolutely doing that. and -- he is in that independent, he's not some left wing idealogue that donald trump is trying to make him out to be. now, to the second point, judge the chutkan, she is well known in legal circles as someone who is fair to all sides. but she also has a reputation for being tough. i would note, phil ayman, i think i've seen some commentary from you perhaps, that earlier in some of her january 6th cases, she sentenced defendants who were fou...

Authentic quality of chris christie. now, does it making a culture warrior? does it make him a very partisan idealogue? which in some ways is in vogue right now. but it does make him engaging. make some serious. and honestly, it makes him seem humbled to me. when a politician looks at you and says i don't have all the answers, but i'll do my best to get to the most unifying answer i can, that is a pretty humble statement in a world that doesn't really reward that right now. >> all right, but what about on the accuracy of this, right, that there -- can be more down on the federal level? there a...

His career had been for an assault weapons ban. here, he was making the argument of i don't really know, and i don't think there's anything else the federal government can do. >> yeah, he really did not want to lean into some of the culture war topics, guns being one. but republicans want to hear of course is that you are going to defend the individual right to keep and bear arms at all costs. that's what most republican voters want to hear. but he did not want to get into that. numerous times tonight, when he got a question from an audience member, he did it with the -- south carolina, he did...

She was assaulted 17 years prior to that, 1979, and the other, our guest later, about a decade after that. i think the argument to be those acts were to remote in time, and it was therefore unfairly prejudicial. i just want to say. that's because i know this. judge judge kaplan, i appeared in front of him many times. that statement by donald trump is wrong. donald trump is not an idealogue, he's not a political judge, he's very much, as kara saw, this he is in charge of this courtroom. i probably appeared in front of him, i don't, not 100 times. until i heard, that i don't even know who appoin...

Purposes. such as being's minister to women who suffer miscarriages. so they don't have to continue to carry a non viable fetus. it is cruel, but here we have a situation where you have this judge. and everywhere to continue to go to this judge. and this is really the lingering stench of the trump era. what he did to the courts. not just a supreme court. but also in the lower courts. and this is what we're dealing with this judge who has issued one terrible ruling after another. we know where his politics than. we know where his view stand. he's an idealogue. and he's a very dangerous man. and...