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that? was there anything that stands out to you? you talk about conspiracy. that says others would have to be involved. >> yeah. my guess is the special counsel has gotten evidence. they had tools that were not available to a congressional xle. if we had a witness come in. not come in, or come in and assert privileges that we didn't credit, we had to go to court and file a civil lawsuit or wait for them to file a civil lawsuit. it took too long. it goes immediately upstairs with a special counsel. the judge makes a ruling. he goes immediately to the court of appeal. the special counsel can essentially overcome or rebut those privileges. he also has the hammer of threatening charges. so it could be, talking to some of these people involved in the

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