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But abruptly, and then people jumping off the roof. >> did you ever think there was a chance you were gonna pull the sheets down to see if somebody had a vest, and when you look, it's bin laden? >> no. during those raids, it was all low-level thugs that were making bombs and killing americans. every one of these guys we'd take off the street, we're saving someone's life because there are people in every branch of the military that had a much more dangerous job than we did, 'cause we were able to fight on our terms. we got people out there -- marines, army -- we had navy guys out there driving ...

Middle wired. you say the code word get out of here quietly people were jumping off roofs. >> did you think there was a chance you would hold it down to see somebody had a vest and when you look it was locked? >> it was all low devil thugs that were making bombs and killing americans. every one of these guys were saving someone's lives. every branch of the military had a much more dangerous job than we did. we had navy guys out there driving around with vehicles and it was better to target,ied makers you are taking them off the battlefield. >> coming up next before the obama mission rob was on...

Say the code word for what means get out of here quietly and abruptly and people jumping off the roof. >> did you think you would pull the sheets down to see if there was a bed and when you look it's bin laden? >> no. during those raids, it was all low hf level thugs that were making bombs and killing americans. every one of the guys we're saving someone's life because they're in every branch of the military with a much more dangerous job than we did. we fought on our terms. we have marines, army, navy guys driving around in vehicles wondering when they're going to blow up. it was better to ta...

Surrounded by ieds, take out the ied makers with one team and when the regular forces get out, they feel the effects what people think about these operations. dr. sachs, whey are you thinking? >> i'm thinking we have heard this where you kill young men in victim languages. do you think this is somehow scaring afghanistan into being a successful state or winning hearts and minds of the population? 12,000 people doesn't seem like a lot to me in a country of many millions of people, where young people are hungry, without jobs, without education i don't see it. i wonder what you feel about the s...

Have to follow up on this. >> don't mistake what i'm saying. i'm saying in my judgment it is either or because someone is tipping off the ied maker. the ied makers are gone when the pakistani military gets to the base that we are working together on. in other words, the united states provides the intelligence to isi. isi then asks the military to move in and when the military move in, the facility they move in to take down has already been cleared out of all personnel and all munitions. >> it marks a low point in u.s.-pakistani relations and cooperation. senator feinstein very nice to see you....