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Making a point about them. the only person you are allowed to look at is the senate president. you have to maintain eye contact with that specific person. sandy mappas, you have something to say? you are only allowed to say it to sandy pappas. no matter what it is you have to say, stare at sandy while you say it. >> i find this particular rule of the senate, dare i say, antequated. >> if i wanted to have a historical reference to something, i would turn to my good friend and colleague senator cohen. if ien watted to talk to something that was going on in the judiciary committee, i would want t...

Finds himself in. i hope it has the happy ending you wish for and we all wish for you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, piers, thank you very much. i want to bring in two people who know all too well the turn this story can take. his story is the basis for the movie, into the wild, he died in the wilderness when he was 24. thank you to both of you for joining me. when you hear a story like the one i've described about jonathan crum, and you see the anguish of his farther, it must bring back vivid memories for both of you? >> yeah, those memories never die, of course, and ien watted to...

>> what did you discover in your show? >> what you start to see is, these types of folks, they aren't in a database. people aren't tracked. there's no way to know who those people are, and really keep the firearms out of their hands. the shop i worked in did an incredible job of doing background checks on people. they ran all the specs they had to. >> it was in virginia. >> fredericksburg, they did everything to the letter of the law. more than other shops. they were great, this part of the puzzle is one that is missing doing background checks on people. >> how lax is it in reality? >> i mean,...

>> are you allergic to it? >> when it hits my mouth, it tastes like chemicals. >> your view of where america is, the reason i'm inited, you are the -- i think you've got a great take on the real america. which is probably not what the media elite. what is your take on where america is right now, and where is it going? >> i'm an optimist. i'm an eternal optimist. i believe, when i get to make a show like this, or the show we made for fx, you get to meet the real people who live and breathe every day, and deal with the problems we talk about in the show. they also believe in this country. that's...

Experiences i've had was documenting whale sharks for ocean mysteries. but we have to remember that this is a wild animal and in fact, intense contact with sharks can actually be incredibly stressful for these animals. they have a very thin, almost like slimy layer, a mucus layer on their skin. when that rubs off, it can expose them to bacteria. and we also need to remember what this animal is doing. these animals move to the surface for one specific reason. that is to filter feed. and they're burning energy to get energy. when we interfere with their feeding activities, it could be detrimenta...