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>> thanks for having me on. >> this is a little bit of a fact getting in the way. he's talking about a tracking poll. we don't use them. they are not seen as a reputable outfit. he said it was fox. he was wrong. do you believe his approval among blacks is near 40%? >> well, i can only speak for the people who i'm talking with in the state of michigan. to be honest with you, there are folks who love him and some who hate him in michigan. i get pulled aside and people are saying they are excited to finally have a conservative to vote for. i went to a pistons game and i was pulled aside by an afr...