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The preference intensity problem on il gration. what we have seen in america, as long as i've been covering immigration policy, is the steve kings of the world and the steven millers of the world, and the white nationalists have essentially a veto on american immigration policy because the intensity with which they feel it. >> fear, hate, anger sells. facts matter. it's no longer a wall. it's beautiful, steel slats, esthetically pleasing. facts matter. and over 17 years, there's been 80% reduction of apprehensions by border patrol at the border. foreign born individuals in america have less cr...

And the mobilization levels of people who are very passionately in trump's camp when it comes to immigration, who are dogmatically committed to reducing not just illegal immigration levels but legal immigration levels. that doesn't always register in some of these polls, including polls of the republican primary. you can find poll after poll showing the majority of 2016 primary voters supported an immigration policy wanted more what jeb bush was pushing for than what donald trump was pushing for. but history shows us that doesn't reflect where these voters are at, and president trump believes ...