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They were probably going to come interview steve bannon. they were probably going to interview kellyanne conway, reince priebus, others, maybe even the vice-president, maybe even the president. there probably were numerous strategy sessions that maybe the president presided over, maybe he was briefed upon, at which they discussed, how do we get the fbi off of our trail? and when you put the president atop a large discussion, a large meeting, an ongoing role in a meeting, that in effect is sitting on top of conspiracy to obstruct justice. >> julia, you report that the d.o.j. assumption was that...

Is that his team has been questioning people who were in the white house during those 18 days. a lot of those people are in the white house now, like chief counsel don mcgahn. he's trying to figure out a lot of what jeremy just ran through, kind of who knew what when, and what conversations transpired around this time and why it took 18 days for flynn to be fired. of course, the timing we well know now is because of washington post report that came out right before his firing. so, it is looking like in retrospect what they really did was they fired him because they realized they had an image p...

Realized they had an image problem. it wasn't to preserve the integrity of their white house. justice officials said, yes, they expected any president to get rid of their national security advisor as soon as they found out that he had lied to federal agents. >> and, jeremy, what else that might have been embedded in julia's reporting today did you pay attention to especially? >> i just think it's crystal clear now based on her reporting and reporting of her colleagues at nbc news that the president approved of mike flynn's conduct. he approved of the secret deal that mike flynn launched into w...

Around roy moore because he's another vote on a potential supreme court nominee sounds like a sean hannity, steve bannon white house, alabama republican strategy. >> it shows two things. they want to -- they probably are hearing -- a lot of republicans may be uneasy about roy moore and this is a reason to calm everybody down because he'll vote for those judges. but it also shows me that the white house is getting a little nervous if they feel they need to distract and give people another reason to vote for roy moore. up next -- from trump's treasury secretary to his son's hunting habits, the...

Documents that the committee has learned about from other witnesses in their investigation into the trump campaign's ties to russia. also, a spectacular collection of lies. that's how a former george w. bush speechwriter describes the trump team in a scathing new column. we'll bring that to you. and add image problem to the list of donald trump's political woes. some of the most widely circulated images of the trump era, and they aren't pretty. us. it's what this country is made of. but right now, our bond is fraying. how do we get back to "us"? the y fills the gaps. and bridges our divide...