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Thorough search. when you look at this, they also said they're beginning of course to look at this with an arson task force, noft saying it is criminal at all but do they always look at it from that vantage point as well? is that typical? >> that is something especially with lives being lost in the situation. the rescue department today had a two alarm apartment fire in atlanta and no persons were injured or lost their lives in that structure, but to say that the arson investigator did come out, we always want to know what's going on, what happened. just because the arson investigators do come...

You? >> that does not surprise me. this is a recovery operation. oakland fire not being able to locate the fire victims can be from a few different reasons. one, structural collapse of the structure may have come down, meaning the ceiling, roofing materials, the second floor may have come down and fallen into a basement if there is a basement. just because they aren't able to locate the victims immediate doesn't mean they won't locate them soon. to say that they will get back in there, they also have to be aware and be sure that when they do go back in the structure, that it's safe for them to...