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Up. and she's identifying with the social justice demands. and she said something really interesting to me. she said, in my spare time i work on immigrant rights issues. and all we ever hear about is how there's not enough in this country, there's not enough money for decent health care and decent housing, and there's not enough space to treat immigrants decently. and i just realized, it is such a stroke of organizing genius once again to counter that discourse of scarcity, which is all we hear from washington, the whole discussion about the deficit, to go to the site of maximal abundance. >> ...

One. and she wants her taxes to go up. and she's identifying with the social justice demands. and she said something really interesting to me. she said, in my spare time i work on immigrant rights issues. and all we ever hear about is how there's not enough in this country, there's not enough money for decent health care and decent housing, and there's not enough space to treat immigrants decently. and i just realized, it is such a stroke of organizing genius once again to counter that discourse of scarcity, which is all we hear from washington, the whole discussion about the deficit, to go to...

Interesting to me. she said, in my spare time i work on immigrant rights issues. and all we ever hear about is how there's not enough in this country, there's not enough money for decent health care and decent housing, and there's not enough space to treat immigrants decently. and i just realized, it is such a stroke of organizing genius once again to counter that discourse of scarcity, which is all we hear from washington, the whole discussion about the deficit, to go to the site of maximal abundance. >> right. >> which just puts the lie to it. it's not a scarcity -- it is not a scarcity prob...