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Chris Matthews debates hot political issues with politicians, newsmakers and Washington leaders. Sunday in washington d. C. Closely following the terrible events in charlottesville, virginia. We condemn this egregious display of hatred and bigotry and violence on many sides. I think there is blame on both sides. In his decision this morning to once again get into the culture war by attacking mostly black athletes for kneeling. Trump writing the nfl players are at it again taking a knee when they should be stands proudly for the national anthem. He added be happy, be cool, a Football Game that ...

The report showed apprehensions are up 180,000 apprehensions in may and we are up tremendously from april in the previous month, we can't handle it. tremendous action is needed and i was the point person would spend time at the border other than all the things she's doing. this is the big crisis she needs to be focusing on. mike: what is your take on the crisis at the border? >> i don't share the assessment that it is a crisis. under the trump administration, taking children away from parents, that was dissuasive of some immigrants, hereby met a guy today, my driver, spoke to him for 30 minute...

The first. how do you get that in people's heads and hearts that they preceded people like me. irish and english. we know we come from immigrant stock. when are people going to say, yeah, they were here before most of us. >> that is a great point. in my book, i talk about that conversation between bobby kennedy and james baldwin. and at one point bobby kennedy says look, hold on for hope because one day, like us, we already produced a president. it went over like a brick cloud. jimmy baldwin said that is a problem. i have been here for five or six generations. until people acknowledge that

After the president's handling of white supremacist rally in charlottesville. and you say you realized that my values were not his values. explain to me why that was a breaking point for you? >> you know, it's interesting. that was a breaking point for me because i was raised in new york city which is a multicultural place. i was raised by an immigrant. my grandfather comes from immigrant stock, and he had told me a story, and this is also in the new york article. he told me a story about coming back after the second world war where he defended another black fireman from new york. my grandfath...

In win-win situations and that is a fundamental difference with the past. >> that's where i was going, you reseen back in december after the president's handling at a white supremacist rally in charlottesville. you said you realize that my value were not his values. explain to me why that was a breaking point for you. >> you know, it's interesting. that was a breaking point for me because i was raised in new york city which is a multicultural place. i was raised by an immigrant. my grandfather comes from immigrant stock. he told me a story, and this is also in the new york article. he told me ...