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Republicans control the house, the senate, and the presidency as you know. with the exception of the shutdown earlier this year, it's been about 40 years since there was a government shutdown when one party controlled all three of those levers since the jimmy carter administration because no party wants to be so incredibly responsible for the failure of governments to have control of all of those levers. the other is trump's immigration policy which has been an abject failure to the point that you and hallie were making earlier. mexico isn't paying for a wall. congress isn't paying for a wall....

Sorry, the solicitor general is obviously arguing in favor of the travel ban on behalf of the administration. what is your response to that argument there? >> here's the biggest difference of all. both the carter and reagan order had end dates. this is a permanent indefinite travel ban that has no endate whatsoever. so that's the concern is that what the president has done is taken what we described as an iron wrecking ball to the immigration code that congress put out that's really congress's prerogative in terms of deciding what -- who can come into the country and who cannot. so that was ou...

Different than that because it's not. [applause] that is why our commitment to law and law enforcement also includes insuring that we are giving departments the resources they need to train, recruit, and retain talent. as part of our commitment to safe communities we'll also work to address the mental health crisis. prisons should not be a substitute for treatment. we will fight to increase access to life-saving treatment to battle the addiction to drugs which is afflicting our nation like never, ever before. ever. [applause] i've been here two weeks and i have met a lot of law enforcement off...

So we can know when someone comes here it doesn't undermine our security. if you don't do the time-out to actually look at what your policies are and come up with a system, you can't really assure the american people that a terrorist can't slip through. i think it's the right pollz. i do agree there was some chaos in how it was implemented and agree with his comments on that. >> melissa: laura ingraham talked about the roll-out. >> you can question the roll-out. i certainly have. question the merits of it. that's fine. but as to this legal issue we're seeing right now, this is a dangerous plac...

1950 immigration code is still valid. what do you think? >> several points on that. she is right it was messy. i remember not too long ago when republicans were rejoicing when obama's executive order on immigration was overturned by a court of appeals. for some reason that has shifted in terms of what the executive can do with conservatives now that the shoe is on the other foot. i will say this. you have countries that are being -- prevent people from some countries prevented from coming here despite we've never had a terrorist attack on our soil with people from any of these countries. >> me...