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MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams September 23, 2021 03:45:00

Showing that 60 people over the age of 60 clearly benefitted from a third immunization and restored a lot of the protective capacity and in the cdc that was done as well. that s a long way of saying we re finally getting there but we could have gotten ahead of this to explain it and we re still not quite there. because this none of these discussions and deliberations at the fda seem to look at the long-term effect, the neurological effect the u.k. has shown, even in 40 to 50 year olds. we re getting a half-baked approach of saying 65 and older with an asterisk. if it s to be determined, you can get it as well. but i think we would have done much better had we message this from the beginning, like some of us have recommended. and go down to a lower age ....

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MSNBC MTP Daily September 23, 2021 17:35:00

Soon could eligible people potentially start showing up at their local pharmacy for shot number three? i think there s a high likelihood, garrett, they will go along with fda s summary recommendations. you know, i know there is a lot of confusion about this and part of it, i think, is that there s not consensus in the scientific community about what the goal of vaccination is. i think there s one group that feels strongly that the goal of vaccination is exclusively to prevent severe illness, hospitalizations and deaths and they make a strong case for that, but then there s another strong case that the hope is that by vaccinating you can restore the ability with the third immunization you can restore the ability of the vaccine to actually stop infection and, therefore, interrupt transmission if enough americans can get vaccinated and there s a number of us who feel that s important as well. and then there s a third component about preventing long covid and so i think that s why you re ....

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MSNBC MTP Daily September 23, 2021 17:36:00

The end acip will likely go along with the fda recommendations. where do you fall on that question of what the purpose of vaccines is because he think the longer we are in this pandemic the more important that question is. is it to prevent severe infection and death, is it to try to prevent as many people as possible from getting sick at all? how do you view that and how do you think that informs the policy discussion? well, i want it all. i want to vaccinate i want to vaccinate our country out of this epidemic and i feel it is possible. it s a very high bar. it s going to be 90% immunization with three doses of both mrna vaccines and two doses of the j&j vaccine but i counter we ve done this before. we ve done it to eliminate polio and measles and i think we can do it with covid-19. i think the conflating part of all of this in addition is the global equity argument. they re saying how can you justify that when the rest of ....

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MSNBC The 11th Hour With Brian Williams September 23, 2021 06:44:00

Vaccine, given that close together, we will see waning am unity. and get ready for that third immunization. this was going to be a three dose vaccine. and so it caught people by surprise, then israel started showing data over the summer, or earlier, that we were seeing waning i m unity and decline of efficacy. decline of efficacy from 40% to 50%, and that got people worried and scared, even though we knew it would happen. so now we are slowly coming up to where israel s assets. they presented data last week showing that 60 people over the age of 60, clearly benefit from a third of immunization, and it restored a lot of the protective capacity. and even at the cdc that was done as well. so that s a long way of saying, we are getting there, but we could have gotten ahead of this to explain it. but we are still not there. ....

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MSNBC Stephanie Ruhle Reports September 22, 2021 13:12:00

Forward with their recommendation for a third immunization of the pfizer biontech vaccine for those over the age of 65. one of the problems is there was an important article that came out in the mmwr from the cdc on that day showing that there s a decline in effectiveness of hospitals from over 90% to 70%. still a good vaccine, but there is that impact. and then there was very little consideration on long covid and data coming out of oxford university in their neurology institute showing gray brain matter, and cognitive decline in 40 and 50-year-olds. i would not make that cutoff at 65, i would have been much more comfortable for those third immunizations for 40 and 50-year-olds, not only to prevent hospitalizations to prevent covid infections and the consequences of long covid. the cdc, the easiest thing for them to do is green light what ....

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