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>> i don't think so, again, i will use the word, stonewalling, here, and that's not a political point. look, i worked both at the justice department and in congress in legislative affairs so i worked on this issue for over 15 years. we have never seen a scenario in which from the president of the united states, the senior officials in the executive branch, just issuing a correct directive in heffect not to comply with congressional orders. this is remarkable. the branches disagree with each other all the time. >> right. >> that's okay. that's the hallmark of a healthy government. you don't see...

Why are you against impeachment now? you're going to change your mind very soon. >> i think we're ultimately ending up there. i'm the only candidate running for president who actually would have to try the case because i'm on the judiciary committee. i've called for immediately impeaching barr and mnuchin. i think they're front door obstructors and they're holding the evidence that we need right now. i firmly believe as a former prosecutor no one is above the law. and there has to be consequences when people break the law. >> congressman eric swalwell there stating atoernlg william barr and tr...

President. sir, thank you very much for being here. >> of course. >> appreciate it. let me ask you about this prospect of impeaching barr and mnuchin. they are both defying subpoenas that should require them to do something fairly simple, in each case just handing over materials. you think that's impeachment-worthy. >> absolutely. and also i believe the attorney general lied to congress when he testified and stated that bob mueller had never contacted him, that no prosecutor had objected to the way he characterized the report. i also believe that the work that he's doing for the president of i...

Joining us here on set is congressman eric swalwell of california. he's on the judiciary committee and on the intelligence committee. he is also very busy running for president. sir, thank you very much for being here. >> of course. >> appreciate it. let me ask you about this prospect of impeaching barr and mnuchin. they are both defying subpoenas that should require them to do something fairly simple, in each case just handing over materials. you think that's impeachment-worthy. >> absolutely. and also i believe the attorney general lied to congress when he testified and stated that bob muell...

Why are you against impeachment now? you're going to change your mind very soon. >> i think we're ultimately ending up there. i'm the only candidate running for president who actually would have to try the case because i'm on the judiciary committee. i've called for immediately impeaching barr and mnuchin. i think they're front door obstructors and they're holding the evidence that we need right now. i firmly believe as a former prosecutor no one is above the law. and there has to be consequences when people break the law. >> congressman eric swalwell there stating attorney general william bar...