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What that great legal scholar, twisted sisterer said, we're not going to take it anymore. you have congress and the courts saying we have checks and balances in this country and you can't do all of these shenanigans you're engaged in. >> d snideer is rocking out to that illusion you made there. let me ask if my observation of of even in the descent today by sort of rarifying the importance of the impeachment processes and its poetancy for compelling witnesses and documents. i felt like that was no safe harbor and might potentially sort of auger poorly for him either on bank or supreme court re...

Coming out of this story with, again, the things you're suggesting most recently. what i've also said, though is, one, let's be deliberate about the process. i think the house ought to take a vote first. that happens to be my opinion. that's what's happening the previous three impeachment processes. but impeachment ultimately is a political process, not a legal one. and my simple point in saying what i said with regard to censure was, if you -- what you don't want is for the president to walk out of this process exonerated as if it's all fine. and for him to say, oop, the senate didn't impeach...

Hasn't effectively been an official vote to open an inquiry. if you look at the constitution, it says the house of representatives has sole responsibility for the power of impeachment. the white house, though, is making the case, look, look at what has happened in the past, the past three impeachment processes have started with a vote to essentially not only open up an impeachment inquiry but to lay out the terms of that inquiry. so that is the white house's stance. the house speaker saying effectively that she has the authority to move forward with an impeachment inquiry and saying that the p...

President's own mind. politically speaking, there are some administration officials who think that this could help him with his re-election bid, could energize his base, but you're absolutely right. this is a president who doesn't want to be associated with that asterisk. he doesn't want to become one of the presidents who was impeached. now, what they are calling for is a vote to open up officially the impeachment inquiry. house speaker nancy pelosi is saying, hey, look at the constitution, it doesn't say we have to hold a vote to do that. if you do look back at history, though, katy, the pas...

Is unavoidable in the course of the investigation. >> laura: chris, you been around the block, you know this inside out. adam schiff is in control of the transcript. really, and control of this process. not knowing who this person is and maybe another whistle-blower, or pseudo whistleblower, i don't even know if if they would be counting as it was but they're called whistle-blowers. what about it? >> we have to acknowledge why we are here. of the criminal justice system under bill barr has been removed as a political weapon. so no longer can the criminal justice system be used for political ga...