MSNBC MSNBC Live With Hallie Jackson November 14, 2019 15:02:00
That has also created this new debate here and i think it's going to be critical going forward about how close president trump was to all of this operation here. we heard from both democrats and republicans on that this morning trying to spin that point. take a listen. >> well, i think the bombshell yesterday of the staff member listening in, not by desire, but because the president's voice was so thunderous, that -- that's a key component. that makes clear that president was directing this. >> these are the first two star witnesses in this impeachment sham process they have going and neither ...
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