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Because 2020 at a certain point begins and speaker pelosi either moves or doesn't. or because ukraine itself became a thing that was justified by new facts or new reports, it could still pop up in the middle of a presidential campaign. >> yeah, it's a super interesting question. and now that we're starting to see arrests. now that we're starting to see at least part of the justice department, southern district of new york involved here, and this has some criminal elements to it and some prosecutorial elements to it, that has a different spin on whether or not we think this stuff has a timeline...

By a company whose primary ownership individual is from ukraine. i would like to see the server. i think it's very important for this country to see the server. nobody wants to see it. the media never wants to see it but i'll tell you republicans will want to see it so the republicans aren't treated well. here's the problem. i think we'll take the house based on what's happening with the impeachment stuff. and the republicans can do the same thing in reverse if they ever have -- i hope it will be a long time because nobody has done a better job with the economy, with our military -- i rebuilt ...

Hunt. another one. the first one failed. they're all failing. this one is just absolutely crazy. this is a open and shut simple case. they're desperate because they know they're going to lose the election. i think we're going to take the house based on what's happening with the impeachment stuff. >> a lot to unpack here. joining me from the white house, nbc's kelly o'donnell. kelly, president trump was suggesting that speaker pelosi launched this inquiry because democrats are desperate because they know they're going to lose the election. he also said just a few hours ago that democrats are go...

The c.e.o. told them, there is still working on explanation of what hunter biden was doing there. they have been in business together more than five years and they are crafting that explanation. i think that possibly tells us everything we need to know about the relationships. >> neil: all right, so we know the unanswered questions people will explore on the hunter biden connection and his promise not to do anything to embarrass his dad, by doing this today, he might have raised the issue, whether his dad likes it or not. in the impeachment stuff, is this getting cancelled out, or what do you ...

This could all capitol hill with landmark trade deals to hear the president-elect and democrats landmark impeachment moves. >> yeah. i totally agree. it's really interesting to see how this is all going on, not just with trade deals. you have impeachment stuff happening but there is significant back channeling with the white house and an earnest way with the democrats in the house on drug pricing. i think they have shown a willingness to work together but you never know. when the impeachment stuff comes to a head, he is the decider. there are conversations going on the number of different issu...