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Flake came out to say this went too far. senator ben saase says it was too far. you agree? >> so far we have seen implementation problems. >> what should be done now? >> we need to slow down. there are hysterical voices on both sides of this. two points, one, our country is not as safe as they should be. i'm on the homeland security and i know there's not apt screening, particularly on the visa programs. so we need to tighten things up. and there's general consensus about that. congress passed legislation to do that at the tend of 2015. but we have to do it consistent with our national values ...

Other state and we are at the bottom of the standings. it shouldn't just be strawberry ice cream. it can be strawberry, chocolate, vanilla or whatever. take the best of the best around the country, apply that locally in new york and achieve the same results or better. >> if there's implementation problems in new york and new jersey, can this thing survive? >> it becomes age appropriate. that's a big key. and standards are going to come. i don't know if it's going to stay with common core or states are going to adopt standards like we have before. the one thing complicating this is they see com...

I'm actually of two minds about the electoral prospects on this. look the reality is the president took on a big idea pep got it passed with democrats only. and now he's got to execute. so republicans can be blamed and i agree with joe that like 1994 be very effective for republicans to go out there and say look this is how government can work properly, this is how government can take on a big societal problem like the lack of health insurance and exploding health care costs more effectively. i think they can do that. short of that they can stand up there and say this president had a big idea....

That a huge implementation problems like obama care does they didn't try to repeal it they weren't trying to go after it in this waiy. i'm not surprised. fundamentally, obama care's a very bipartisan structure. look, it was based on ideas proposed by the heritage foundation and endorsed by republican governor of massachusetts. obama, to his credit said i'm going to take the republican idea and adopt it. once he adopted it, it was terrible. that's what's frustrating. >> i want to get a reaction to you by a statement put out by the insurance industry. changing the rules after health plans have m...

And let them keep what they've got." just to the give you context, the president just didn't start this interview and fire off at the president. he talked about the various things going on with the implementation of obama care, why it's not going so well. he talked about the fact that the website has been down, that's gotten in the way of a lot of people signing up for coverage. he compared that to the roll out of medicare part d, the prescription drug bill signed by president bush. that program had similar implementation problems. he also talks about some of the medicaid issues in states that...