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>> federal prosecutors do not use that term lightly. it sounds like this was -- we don't know if this was the investigators who were saying they were likely to indict or the prosecutors themselves who were saying that. if so, he probably received a target letter. that might be what they're referring to at this point. if they've sent him a target letter, very likely they will indict him unless he decides to cooperate. >> renato, go ahead. >> i have a very similar answer. what i would say is this indicates both to me. it certainly indicates, as john said, that mueller is intending to indict mana...

Extraordinary in many ways, don. when you look at how things have transpired over the past few months, we never thought that one could be one up, so to speak. we never thought that we'd actually see empirical evidence, evidence from donald trump jr. in a written e-mail acknowledging that he wanted to get the goods on hillary clinton from russian operative. we never thought that we would hear that paul manafort was continuing to talk to president trump after he was in office and was only stopped from doing so when president trump's lawyer and manafort's lawyer told them that they needed to stop...

Former nixon white house counsel is here and the author of conservatives without conscience. also here, former federal prosecutor renato mariotti. thank you so much, gentlemen, for joining us. john, i'm going to start with you. i want to get your reaction to cnn's new reporting that the fbi wiretapped former trump campaign chairman paul manafort under secret court orders, surveillance that continued until this year when manafort was still talking to the president. they also raided a storage facility of his. what are the implications of all of this? >> well, it certainly is a very aggressive in...

New fisa warrant that extended into 2017. of course getting a fisa warrant is not easy to do. what does that tell you about this investigation? >> so at the outset, obtaining a fisa warrant means that the government was able to prove that they had probable cause that paul manafort was the agent of a foreign power. the definition can encompass a lot of different activities but typically it does indicate there's some evidence here of there being criminal wrongdoing. >> so considering the surveillance was discontinued at some point last year for lack of evidence, it means when they got the fisa w...

The warrant was restarted in relation to the investigation between the trump campaign and contacts with russian officials. so it does sound like there are two investigations, but obviously paul manafort's connections to either russian officials or ukrainian officials sympathetic to russian interests are sort of our connective tie here. >> laura, there's also "new york times" reporting that federal investigators picked manafort's locks on an early morning raid. but here is the kicker. it says, special counsel robert s. mueller iii then followed the house search with a warrant. his prosecutors t...