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Well, u.s. congressman elijah cummings joins us now. sir, this is so amazing because this wild goose chase is what it looks like now that supposedly led all the way to the white house although issa never gets you all the way there. he says i'm working on that one. and now he's calling you. what's your phrase for your latest one, you're extreme and reckless and all you're doing is quoting the witness he refused to acknowledge which is the guy in charge who said i did it because it was a way to do things for consistency's sake and we got no leadership. i'm a conservative republican. >> that's ri...

People in good marriages, they're healthy and happy. these cutters, the people that these women aren't getting to vote very much, are they? >> well, they're not giving big campaign contributions and so they're really not politically apparently an important constituency which is just stunning. >> let's talk turkey. kim, how do you fight this? is there anybody you've been able to find, we called it in wrestling, i guess, pressure points. i imagine these things. i didn't wrestle. but you look for the way to pin the person. how do you get the members of congress and say, look, some women are going...

Fixing the faa problem so there wouldn't be long lines at the airport. >> that's on the airplanes. >> exactly. >> when good marriages are healthy and happy. these cutters, the women aren't getting to vote very much, aren't they? >> and they're not giving big campaign contributions. so they're really not politically apparently an important constituency, which is just stunning. >> let's talk turkey, kim. how do you fight this? who do you have to talk to? is there anybody you can find -- we used to call it in wrestling pressure points. i imagine these things. i didn't wrestle. but you look for th...

He put it, was based on excerpts of interviews his staff conducted with irs officials based in cincinnati. those included one unnamed employee saying i took all my direction from washington. well, conspiracy proved hmmm, wrong. issa was criticized at the time for selectively disclosing extremely limited portions of those interviews. why not release them all? why not release more? here's why. it turns out that others in the division including the manager of the group and the person responsible for screaming tax exempt applications directly contradict the cherry-picked statements disclosed by is...

The one who actually sent cases, a case up to washington. apparently what happened is he was -- he had screeners under him. in other words, that worked for him. one of the screeners came to him in february of 2010 and says look, boss, this is a tea -- we've got a tea party case here and what they are asking for is they want tax exempt status. his boss, that is the self-described republican conservative republican said, you're right. we need to send this to washington. this is a high profile case. we want to make sure we are consistent. we want to make sure that other cases that may come in we ...