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Wrong, to punish a segment of the society, by making life more difficult for them and their families to help others? mary katharine? one minute, go. >> no. i don't think that's immoral in and of itself. i prefer for people to do it voluntarily via charity. we are transferring money from younger poorer healthy people to richer older people who are sicker. that's who is going to be served. that's how you would want a subsidy to go. >> bill: impose a system where some people are clearly going to get hurt to help others. >> that's what i prefer to do things outside of government. i don't like them...

Wrong, to punish a segment of the society, by making life more difficult for them and their families to help others? mary katharine? one minute, go. >> no. i don't think that's immoral in and of itself. i prefer for people to do it voluntarily via charity. we are transferring money from younger poorer healthy people to richer older people who are sicker. that's who is going to be served. that's how you would want a subsidy to go. >> bill: impose a system where some people are clearly going to get hurt to help others. >> that's what i prefer to do things outside of government. i don't like them...