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And agriculture, all of these things are really important. that's the reason we have to have lots of people involved. and we have to understand that space is our collective resource. our collective resource. >> amen to that. standby. i should probably clarify that because i'm sure someone will say something, i'm not related to an astronaut. >> you never know. >> that's true. that's that a good point. we're going to take a quick break. any minute now we are expecting to hear from jeff bezos and the blue origin crew after that triumphant return from space. we'll talk to a reporter who followed b...

You're writing. would you go? >> i would. i don't think my wife would allow me to. >> would you? >> no. not saying anything about the coverage, buts that a hard pass for me. i'm a heights person. there's this i think you raise an interesting point, an interesting tension we have seen this morning on the one hand the optimism about space exploration and the other hand the cynicism. that's something that you have drawn out in this discussion. let me focus on the optimism and the heart piece of this. you're writing a box on female astronauts, women astronauts during the shuttle era. we have to ta...

Bringing people together. you mentioned vilification, but we to that by being inclusive and bringing more people to the table to allow people -- i wear my flight suit ever time i'm on this show because i want kids to see i'm a real life astronaut. sometimes we miss the point that, hey, this is how do you get there. and i think it's so important that all of our kids see there are opportunities for everyone. >> you mentioned this word that caught the attention of a congressman on our show an our hour ago who are said how can you even talk about democracytizing space travel when the people that g...

Embracing this moment. she's on the big stage here. it's been such a joy to watch her do the interviews in the run up to the launch. now we're moments away from getting to hear from her. she was part of the group of 13 women who trained to become astronauts, but were never allow ed to go into space. he's in the record books as the oldest person ever to go to space. talk about this moment means. >> you just look at her face and how can you not spiel when you see the enthusiasm bursting from her being. but you bring up an importanten point. when wally was trying to go to space, nasa was only all...

Look at where we're agent right now. it does seem a little depressing. you have to pay $250,000 for a ticket to fly with virgin galactic or win a raffle or bid $28 million to get a ticket or you can be someone's brother. right now, the barrier to entry seems almost insurmountable for people like me. but the whole point of commercial space industry is we start off at the top and then we try to work our way to a place where it is affordable and sustainable. that's going to come with lots of reflights, being more efficient in refurbishing the vehicles. when they go to space, how long does it take...