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Called his daddy and talked to joe paterno. what we are going to see, ed, we will see fine spins to all of this. as you see the fine spin what you are seeing is something that will be presented in a defense. >> mike, let's talk about the judge. does the judge, in your opinion, have a conflict of interest? and have you ever seen anything like this? such a close association. we are talking about political fund-raiser, someone who has worked for the charity. obviously she must know sandusky. what's your take on this? have you ever seen anything like this? >> it is not even a close call, ed. she h...

Obviously she must know sandusky. what's your take on this? have you ever seen anything like this? >> it is not even a close call, ed. she had the duty to rekuz herself. urn the law there is a concept that says if there is even the appearance of the judge doing something wrong, the appearance of impro pryty she has a duty to say there are a half dozen other judges that can hear this. let me bring them in here and be the trier of fact. >> what do you make of the fact he is free and unmonitored on 40 felony accounts. >> what she did is she freed -- right now all we know back to 1998 is we have a...

They will keep attacking. the personal that really ought to be investigating is sean hannity. he's the one who was the person whose name was brought up on the cohen search warrant as a client. >> there's no allegation of impro pryty for having lawyer. >> why didn't he offer himself up as a client if he's done nothing wrong. that information will never see the light of day. it's totally covered by grand jury secrecy. what is going on with sean hannity when he's allowing himself to be used as a client and he says he's not a client. >> past interviews with manafort and gates are listed here. what...