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Nothing interesting here. ref cent article in the "new york post" says new york city waiters expect a 25% tip. that is regardless of the quality of their service. now i'm not from new york. 25% is not worth -- i wouldn't pay 25% at a good -- well, at a place. what about you, eric? >> eric: i think you start at 20%. for bad service. go up to whatever your heart desires. if i's good, give them, 35%. >> bob: you start at 20% for bad service? >> eric: they make a living on your tips. they get paid below minimum wage. it's ridiculous how important it is a tip. you can't look at it as additional cos...

Nothing interesting here. ref cent article in the "new york post" says new york city waiters expect a 25% tip. that is regardless of the quality of their service. now i'm not from new york. 25% is not worth -- i wouldn't pay 25% at a good -- well, at a place. what about you, eric? >> eric: i think you start at 20%. for bad service. go up to whatever your heart desires. if i's good, give them, 35%. >> bob: you start at 20% for bad service? >> eric: they make a living on your tips. they get paid below minimum wage. it's ridiculous how important it is a tip. you can't look at it as additional cos...