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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:21:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:21:00

That -- i really wasn't with it anymore. >> but deputy gaiman, one of the jail's gang investigators, says debriefing is important. >> he can say that, you know, he's out of the gang and doesn't participate in gang-related activities anymore, but it's hard to prove that when you're still living with other validated gang members. if he's truly out of the gang and wants to step away from the violence and the criminal activity, the only way you can show somebody that you're doing that is by taking the steps to remove yourself as far as possible as you can from other gang members. >> while debriefi...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:06:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:06:00

Followed my case 2 1/2 years. by the time i was sentenced i was 20, and a couple weeks after that, i was in prison. i kind of thought maybe i would get 25 to life. i thought i would have a chance to get out eventually. one day. but when she says, gave me the life without a possibility of parole sentence, you know, it was like, it's over with. it's a death sentence. i'm dead. what that did to me, i can't even put into words. it took away any hope that i had. i don't know. just a part of me felt like, you ju tewe away. >> wallace spent the past 17 years in some of california the most notorious m...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:56:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:56:00

>> gadlin's cellmate was jiles wallace. >> i would hope that he learned to restrain hisself a little more, because in prison it's a little worse. restriction is part of life. learn how to restrict your emotions and restrain them, because if you don't, you know, that's why i'm in prison. that's why people get locked up, because they didn't restrain or restrict themselves. >> while they initially got along, both men acknowledged they liked to debate, and apparently the debates began to wear on gadlin. >> he don't have no understanding at all. it's his way or nothing. but like, i would just refle...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:09:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:09:00

Accessories. as he awaits his resentencing hearing, wallace shares a cell with 20-year-old marcus swift. who will soon transfer to prison to start a nine-year sentence for robbery. wallace has taken on the role of mentor. >> you know, like when you're young you want to fight every battle. he said this to me. he said that to me. every little slight, everything bothers you, irritates you. you know? but you can't -- if you do that you're never going to make it out. >> wallace and swift share something else in common. they are both members of the bloods. wallace says he is no longer active, but sw...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:37:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:37:00

Because he -- or odor or so, perfect match damn near. >> though the two men might be on opposite trajectories. wallace is back in jail after serving 20 years in prison for a resentencing hearing that might make him eligible for parole. the men appear to have other differences as well. >> he big brother and i'm the little brother. always pestering him. feel me taking him through hell and putting him through [ bleep ] hell. >> always want to debate. >> debate-ians? everything's a debate. >> what do you think about this? i tell him, it's a debate. >> because -- man -- >> you know what i think? wh...