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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:08:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:08:00

Have a chance to get out. every single juvenile offender should have a chance for rehabilitation, but it's nothing that's guaranteed. and even if they reduce your sentence to 25 to life, it's still not a guarantee you're ever going to get out, but there's a chance. >> my claim. >> ah -- >> wallace acknowledges his role in the crime that occurred at age 17. he was the only juvenile among five co-defendants all of whom were convicted and sentenced to prison as well. >> i was charged with murder/robbery, special circumstances, which means that i wasn't the trigger man but i went there to commit a...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:20:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:20:00

Murdered. so i know what it feels like. what's that word? empathy? when you can really feel somebody else's pain. i can honestly say i can really feel their pain. >> inmates must also be free of any gang affiliation. wallace joined the bloods at age 13. and has been a affiliated with the gang ever since. he says it's been years since he's been an active member, and his prison record has not shown any obvious gang activity during that time, but he never went through what authorities consider an official cutting of ties. it's a process known as debriefing. where inmates share knowledge of their ...

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:57:00

Was that. i brought up the word hypocrite. you feel me? asked how he felt about it. i was serious. aiming it directly at him and he knew it. >> he likes to tell me about myself. i really don't care what another person thinks about me. god knows my heart. he knows my intentions. i know where i've come from and where i'm at now. >> yeah. he start calling me all of this crazy stuff, a few words i didn't know. look it up? i'm like, damn. you feel me? >> gadlin says he then used the dictionary to find a word to express his opinion of wallace. >> i looked up a couple words. i was like -- unaware. an...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:18:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:18:00

I was 17. i don't feel i really experienced very much. most of my experience basically is prison. >> and that has helped wallace at least feel at home here. many of his friends from prison are currently in the jail as well. either for appeals or while awaiting trial on new charges. >> this over here, this is mr. palmer. this brother right here he did 16 years, man. got out. now he's back. this guy right here, witnessed the change, changes that i've made. >> see the transformation, it's -- whew. breathtaking. >> stop it. [ laughter ] >> wallace will soon need to prove that transformation to a j...

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:07:00 - Vimarsana News

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170821:03:07:00

To see. this is all i'm going to know. i'm going to die here. >> but wallace was recently contacted by an organization called human rights watch. about a new law passed by the california state legislature. >> you know, they helped get this bill passed and for juveniles sentenced to life without a possibility of parole and basically saying, like, in the united states, basically it's the only civilized country in the world that gives juveniles life without sentences and saying it's a crime against humanity, the human rights watch. >> california senate bill 9, or the fair sentencing for youth act...