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Themselves. and i can tell you, not going to jump in the middle of this until senator schumer makes a move in here is why i say that. establish the democratic position here, she has changed her position, it is subtle but very real, last week her position was the border walls don t work. now it s much different. now it is border walls are immoral. border walls are an abuse of human rights. you can see the next step, you don t have to be a senior to know that the next step is going to be legally the border walls that we have now that are working. in san diego in yuma and el paso. i just don t think that ....
And more ridiculous. i don t mean any disrespect but it s one thing to debate the merits of a border wall whether they work or not. i think we win that debate easily. but when you take it to border walls for border walls are an abuse of human rights, what you re saying is no border walls, not just new border walls but no walls in yuma or el paso or san diego, she would tell the israelis to get rid of a border wall with the west bank, i guess she would oppose the border wall between north and south korea. that is a sea change. i just don t see the president being able to reach an agreement with it. bill: i think you re right about that, cory gardner is saying go ahead and pass the spending bills and isolate this issue and make it about national security and that s what susan collins is reacting to as well. i respect them both. they are friends of mine, i just ....