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To do that. and four walls marketing promotions, incentive programs, contact between employees and customers when you promote these things aulie kwats to more business. >> you just mentioned incentive programs, bounceback incentive programs, is that incentive for you coming back? >> absolutely. i'm going to give you something today that gets you back soon. a bounceback should get you back soon. >> maybe something to get you to bring people. we're talking about getting repeat customers. but they can also be the ones to recruit new ones for you. >> they can be your best of all. don't make them c...

Are multiple transactions and we need to build a relationship to do that, and four walls marketing, promotions, incentive programs, contact between employees and customers when you promote these things, allbusine >> you mentioned incentive programs. bounceback incentive programs. is that incentive for you coming back? >> absolutely. i'm going to do something today for you coming back soon. >> and maybe also something to get you to bring people. we're talking about getting repeat customers, but they could also be the ones to recruit new ones for you. >> oh, they can be your best of all. don't m...

Particular. it's coming through obamacare which is therefore the government. >> wrong, wrong. >> incentive and coercion. you are saying that coercion and incentive the same thing and they are not at all. >> can i pointed out to you there is nothing in the healthcare law that coerces any business to do this. >> the whole health care law is coercion. >> let's not play this game. there is nothing in these regulations that force any business to do any of incentive programs and many businesses are already doing it. >> let me give jonathan one more word. go ahead. >> the whole health care law is coe...

>> last question to new york, there are studies that have come out in the journal of american medicine that yes these programs work to get people to lose the weight but so many, if not the lion's share of the participants gain the weight back, so what then is the benefit for the individuals who participate in the companies who thought they were going to save money by reducing the health care cost? >> well the problem of weight loss and weight maintenance is a different problem and the type of financial incentive solution that works for weight loss is different for weight maintenance so in a we...

Otherwise you are scheduled to get out in august. correct? >> yes. i was talking to -- >> okay. because you won't go to committee until i get the paperwork, the referral from education, and then once i get that, then we can set you up for committees. i can find out. if i can find it today, i will look for you and have you sign it. >> okay. that's all i can ask for. i understand everything's chaotic. thanks, jeanine. >> uh-huh. >> it's frustrating because it just takes people doing paperwork and signing and putting it through. sometimes it can take up to four months. if that's the case, all the...