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That and we'll find a way to put a stop to it. and the first thing is by putting a stop and closing up that border. it's gut wrenching buck whenpe you send the wide open signal,n you send the wide open signal to criminals and the depth of depravity is shocking. yet this administration has spun this as a humanitarian way to to allow people to enter our country. >> well, what sarah' s reportingod shows everybody and honestly, anyone who's been paying attention to the border sees this. and it's been the case fore the entirety of the biden administration. . unethica their approach to the border is...

Will just keep them there and they will not be free ever again. >> and well del rio, kept his distance not talking to the media as concerns and the response to the border crisis continue to mount. ashley, todd appearance be dude tough stuff to hear that there my marianne rafferty for a spirit and the border is the biggest national security america is facing right now, li. speak with the approach to the border is unethical, it is unmoral and also deeply cynical as a matter of politics. they could try to change the incentive structure for illegal crossings. they could try to limit the lawlessnes...

Was this just good sportsmanship on your part or is it an outright endorsement? >> i hold the seat that gerald ford held from 1949 to 1973 and i think what would ford have done in these circumstances? i find it ironic that many on the anti-trump side of the aisle are frustrated that i didn't act like donald trump and that i conceded the election. that i wasn't a sore loser. that i congratulated my opponent. to me that is just being a civil, courteous person and should be the bare minimum we expect of those who are in our political environment, rather than acting exactly like the type of politi...

Cultural, mt. rushmore-type figures. and it's difficult to know in the moment who those kinds of people are in part because -- i think the twitter point or the social media point is a good one. the incentive structure we have today, it values being performative over integrity. it values -- it rewards people for how many -- negative attention is better than no attention. you saw that in the white house for four years. we see that in all sorts of other places. and if you can get a big following and if you can get the right people to hate you, that helps you. and so people pick fights in an era o...

Nostalgia problem here. we have this quasi-memory of these people, but russell paid a price for the things he did. arthur ashe paid a price. lots of people -- it's a sign of their success that we think back on them and say, these are sort of cultural -- mount rushmore type figures. it's difficult to know in the moment who's those people are in part because, i think the 20 point is really important. the incentive structure we have today's, it values being performative over having and integrity. it rewards people -- negative attention is better than no attention. you saw that in the white house ...