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Is curious because he seemed to have this unique spot on how to keep trump in a box and not dismiss him but not bring him in and now he's got the trump stripes all over him. this is a guy that's already got national office aspirations. >> david, yesterday, we covered a story about equally new attorney general in virginia firing the top investigator on the january 6 committee who is the general counsel at uva. today, the potential for seven lawsuits against the from seven different school districts against the governor. what is the upside? what is the incentive structure to do things that are c...

They support policies that actually keep criminals in person? >> congressman cloud: the biden administration to come up and say that they are supporting law and order in this country is almost laughable at this moment. we can't keep track of who is coming across our border. but we can track a billion gun records clerk this is -- the american people get this and like you said, we are seeing crying go up in cities -- crime go up in cities. the incentive structure on law and order has been reversed and so rightly so, americans are concerned and we are asking those questions. >> laura: congressman...

Anti-semitic tropes if she is referring to the gezpacho police. >> i guess she is belittling them? >> in san francisco, they could very a gezpacho police. >> what are the ill port/export? >> are why people siding with that. what is the incentive structure where somebody would say, marjorie taylor greene will cited this. not liz cheney. >> all i can say on that is that there are very few leaders in the republican party who have been willing to stand up and say what liz cheney has said. instead, republicans are hearing from their news outlets. many of which are increasingly to the right of fox n...

Republicans when they're still ultimately feeding this lie. >> well, definitely when you are looking at primaries in red districts where the incentive structure is still the same, you are not going to see some break. i always say republicans aren't afraid of trump. they're afraid of their own voters. >> exactly. yeah, there's a reason, willie. i mean we had the guy who was in the texas primary a couple of months ago. i forget his name because he didn't win, and he would have been the i deal republican candidate five, six, seven years ago. a marine. said all of the right things on deficits, sai...

>> a lot of white male faces. >> you said it. so how we make sure that, again, our court is representative of the country, and so i want to make sure that the president nominates an exceptional candidate, an exceptional individual, and i would be honored to be able to support an exceptional african american woman. >> i think basically the court should represent the makeup of our country. it's time for this. it's absolutely time. >> big picture, this is the last question for both of you. what are the forces that are making bipartisanship difficult and how do we change the incentive structure in...