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put himself above the law. the defense suggesting that to contempt of congress charges against him were politically motivated. proceedings began today after the judge in the case, carl nichols, who is a trump appointee, denied a defense request for a month long delay. you will recall that last week he rejected the number of defenses, including bannon's claim of executive privilege, leaving one ban a defense attorney to ask -- and these are his words -- what's the point of going to trial if there are no defenses? to which the judge replied, agreed. remember, this is the same c van who...

Put himself above the law. the defense suggesting that to contempt of congress charges against him were politically motivated. proceedings began today after the judge in the case, carl nichols, who is a trump appointee, denied a defense request for a month long delay. you will recall that last week he rejected the number of defenses, including bannon's claim of executive privilege, leaving one ban a defense attorney to ask -- and these are his words -- what's the point of going to trial if there are no defenses? to which the judge replied, agreed. remember, this is the same c van who promised,...

Bother the trump folks at all. he was literally hiding out on a chinese billionaire's yacht and arrested for stealing millions of dollars, specifically from trump supporters so he could spend their money on himself. just before he left office, former president trump pardoned steve bannon for those federal charges, but it wasn't just bannon, it was four guys, including bannon, who got charged with that fraud back in 2020, it was only bannon who got pardoned, well today, of the three other guys, three other codefendants who got charged in that same scheme, two of them pled guilty. they pled guil...

Trump's attorneys, which is not surprising. as jim and i discussed many times, this is a well-worn page out of his playbook. that said, steve bannon seems to be following his lead as well, muck things up as much as i can, let's delay, delay, delay. and there's some sense, even some concern that maybe this might work especially given what democrats are facing next year when it comes to midterm elections. >> i think that's exactly right. essentially the pressure you hear from the committee and from democrats is their attempt to try to get bannon to play by congress' rules. bannon's spurning of t...

Hear from bannon? >> well, the history suggests we won't or we'll just hear what bannon wants to say, meaning he is willing to wait out this process where the odds are unlikely to result in any kind of big punishment and this is a team, the former president's allies, that doesn't feel shame from these kinds of investigations. as we saw with the whole impeachment process, figures around the former president, including bannon, are more than willing to challenge congressional oversight and not say anything. >> so i want to move to what's happening in virginia right now with the gubernatorial race...