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That was pretty stubborn and it didn't work. president obama was reelected. >> bill: i don't believe they even sat down for lunch. that's a direct result of what the people were saying back in november. you can point to a trump victory in part because people saw washington not working. now, on krauthammer's point to both of you now, he says if you do not cooperate, then your ideas are built on fan and it is just a question of time, rich, before the other side comes in and tears your ideas down. what about that? >> not necessarily. if hillary clinton had won a lot of this would have been cement...