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About in the next blocks, one of the most thoughtful and smartest people i worked with in the bush white house, i described you earlier today as the conscience of the bush administration, and you've become the conscience of republicans who don't have amnesia, who haven't sold their souls. what about this idea that mark lays out in his piece that everything is so upside down people don't know how to run against this president. >> the rule book has been thrown out so there is a fluid time. it's a fluid time in the country in general but particularly fluid in politics. if i were consulting with d...

Yesterday or statement yesterday he reminded the american people of the serious problem of russia interference in our elections. so i certainly home he comes before the committee. they're still in conversation, the chairman and mr. mueller's team as he pivots to private life. american people -- and i had a town hall last night toe share with you the reaction there. it was a terrific town hall at our local montgomery county community college. and terrible weather, more than 100 people came. and very quickly, among the questions was, a., what are you doing substantively about legislation around ...

Certainly judiciary is, as somebody said to me in the eye of the storm, and if you've ever been in the eye of the storm you know the clarity that comes, the daylight that comes, so i'm glad i'm there in judiciary. but i believe the other five committees have important oversight roles as well. this is a heavy lift what we're doing here. sadly, there's too much to look at. there's damning evidence of the indecency, the corruption, the cruelty of this administration. and so it's all hands on deck. i honor the work of the other committees and the chairs and how thought fully they're moving forward...

Notion that this is the end of something. this is just the beginning. >> would you like to see, or should the house judiciary committee subpoena bob mueller to testify? >> i'm concern that is going to be up to the chairman of our committee. jerry nadler. he has been just masterful, in terms of being a professional in what we have to do, in terms of oversight. it is our constitutional obligation. if we have a problem getting the contents of this report, i'm sure that will be within the considerations. the chairman has said, if necessary, we will use subpoena power. >> but is that something you ...

Moment, but donald trump's indecency. >> or rise to the moment. >> right. but the fact that he will never give into the norms that govern liberals like me think of civilized life is what i think his followers love about him. so, you know, he's already talking about his supporters kind of mounting some sort of violent resistance in the effort that there is some attempt to dislodge him. so i'm not sure that that kind of, like, cult-like inner core ever really dissolves until something happens that kind of materially affects them. >> ari, the two most pointless things to speculate about are when ...