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Because, remember, the grand jury has been operating since 2 -- 2019. this is how -- when the supreme court got the tax returns just in february. this is a special-grand jury, that, presumably, could be impaneled just to decide whether to press charges rather than gathering evidence. that's what makes it so significant. >> kim, you have a piece out. it's in the "atlantic" where you write about how the country is now closer to the first indictment and trial of president -- of the president. could we, soon, be in uncharted waters here? >> well, absolutely. it's really stunning, when you think ab...

Because even in the quickest scenario, this will take until february, march 2020 to get the appeals resolved. i don't think house democrats have that long given the timetable. now will it impact other witnesses? it should. there's no way in my mind to legally distinguish mcgahn from bolton, pompeo. that said, if the white house wants to obstruct, they can say we're still going to court. we want to litigate this out in order to try to run out the clock and win by default. >> the accusation from democrats was that the president was trying to bribe ukraine. so another viewer is asking that if a p...

President's order not to clippings from -- for locker rooms where somebody on the other side says something, you cut out the press clippings, you cooperate. put it up and you use it to if we start seeing those people inspire other people. actually give depositions, that and it's something we don't want will be a very important moment. >> and i wanteded to ask dave here. let's go, richard haas, go to about william barr, attorney you and talk about the impact of general obviously has been doing the death. everything he can to cover up for the president of the united and we'll get into some of th...

We are going to be talking about obstruction of justice and these hush money payments, michael cohen, is sitting in prison right now because of these hush money payments. donald trump wrote the check that became the source of funds that are integral for these payments. any other american faced with these facts would be sitting in prison next to cohen. the only reason the president is not indicted is the department of justice policies prevent us from indicting a sitting president. hold hearings to bring out the facts for the american people. >> help us out. >> what do you call what we are looki...

Joined by ted liu. thank you for coming on. can you convince me taking your summer break was not a complete momentum killer for democrats in the house? if you have to come back and say to the people watching oh no, we are going to tell a different story now, this one is about an adult film star, playboy bunny of hush money. >> thank you, brian. we are going to be talking about these hush money payments, michael cohen, is sitting in prison right now because of these hush money payments. donald trump wrote the check that became the source of funds that are integral for these payments. the only r...