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>> indira, let's talk about it's an unduly busy september because we have a budget resolution that has to occur otherwise the government shuts down. we have the aftermath of harvey which is going to be expensive. we have a president who until harvey hit was talking about allowing the government to shut down so he can get funding for the budget wall. that's urgent stuff to get done. the president started touring around the country discussing tax reform which there isn't any meat on those bones either. tell me how you see the next few weeks proceeding. >> i think it's going to be difficult for t...

He struggles with in. >> this is something that the president has been wrestling with for months if -- if not longer. he -- you know the options are, does he allow -- does he terminate the program as looks to be reported? what the advisers are telling us reporters? he could also end the program but allow those are existing status to continue until those expire. that would still be ending the program or he could try to defend the program in the courts. though both sides of the argument see a tough chance for this to surviving a court challenge. >> indira, there -- there's been a lot of activity...

Make it a lot more palatable. essentially providing him some cover so that trump could say you know it's kind of a two-win he gets the win for ending the program serving the base. but he gets to tell dreamers he has been working on it like he did before and this is an opportunity to say that. look, congress, it's hard to get anything passed in congress. there is a lot of sympathy for these group of immigrants. more than any other group of undocumented immigrants. you saw that with paul ryan's you know talk earlier today on the radio. but getting anything through this congress has been difficul...

He is just trying to control some of the information flow to the ppt by the standards of the two white houses i worked in this would be baby stuff. the fact that trump recents that tells us about trump. the fact that john kelly, though says he isn't taking it. in the piece "new york times" trumped to him in ways he has never been talked to before. he won't take that again. earlier at the arizona rally. john kelly was there and wouldn't come up on stage. we'll satisfy how the cultures mesh if at all. >> indira one of the things that people say about this white house is that, okay, maybe john ke...

The actual weather is is difficult. franco stay with us please. indira thank you for staying with us and it's always a pleasure. one senator calls the president poorly informed and reminds his colleagues we answer to the american people. that senator, republican john mccain. more on that when "the 11th hour" continues. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything so we know how to cover almost anything. even a swing set standoff.