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Offering is something that would make it a lot more palatable. essentially providing him some cover so that trump could say you know it's kind of a two-win he gets the win for ending the program serving the base. but he gets to tell dreamers he has been working on it like he did before and this is an opportunity to say that. now, look, dwres it's hard to get anything passed in congress. there is a lot of sympathy for these group of immigrants. more than any other group of undocumented immigrants. you saw that with paul ryan's you know talk earlier today on the radio. but getting anything throu...

>> indira, let's talk about it's an unduly busy september because we have a budget resolution that has to occur otherwise the government shuts down. we have the aftermath of harvey which is going to be expensive. we have a president who until harvey hit was talking about allowing the government to shut down so he can get funding for the budget wall. that's urgent stuff to get done. the president started touring around the country discussing tax reform which there isn't any meat on those bones either. tell me how you see the next few weeks proceeding. >> i think it's going to be difficult for t...

The discipline he imposed is relatively minor. he is just trying to control some of the information flow to the president. by the standards of the two white houses i worked in this would be baby stuff. the fact that trump resents that tells us a lot about the trump. the fact that john kelly, though says he isn't taking it. earlier at the arizona rally, donald trump tried to call him up on stage. john kelly was there. he wouldn't come. >> indira one of the things that people say about this white house is that, okay, maybe john kelly has what it takes to organize the white house or as ron says t...

Coming on to take the job and the role he would have to play. i don't know that he was going to relish the role. it sounds like he is having difficulty. >> the fact of the trump presidency is donald trumps first and foremost. kelly won't change that. the discipline he imposed isn't minor. he is just trying to control some of the information flow to the ppt by the standards of the two white houses i worked in this would be baby stuff. the fact that trump recents that tells us about trump. the fact that john kelly, though says he isn't taking it. in the piece "new york times" trumped to him in w...

Reporters? he could also end the program but allow those are existing status to continue until those expire. that would still be ending the program or he could try to defend the program in the courts. though both sides of the argument see a tough chance for this to surviving a court challenge. >> indira, there -- there's been a lot of activity -- in fact mostly in the manner of tweets from members of congress, senate who say let us handle it, don't end it but let's do it the right way. one of the criticisms of daca like president trump enjoyed president obama enjoyed the executive orders and t...