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Over year. that's also slowing down. you put it together, some economists, they do grow a little bit more hopeful about the idea of a soft land where the fed can tame inflation without causing recession. >> okay. let's get your thoughts on this. do you know when it comes to the recession fears, when it comes to inflation issues, are these numbers today good or bad? >> you know, i think the challenging time to read the data, but i would say this is maybe still a little too strong for comfort, if what you care about is bringing inflation down. i think we did see a nice slowdown in headline jobs ...

The inflation scare that’s dominated much of the investment backdrop this year keeps finding new ways to send shockwaves through markets.

It all. >> i think it gets the point across. >> i think so. >> phil, i want to start with it feels like a white house that is afraid of making some tough decisions for fear what could be the worst case scenario and it is because of what happened. >> they have made calculations to go all in on this domestic spending agenda. you were there in the white house, simone. and spent months trying to win over those votes in the senate and only got part of the agenda through. build back better has not made it through and now the polling is so week for democrats right now. there is a real fear and anxiet...

Market, their pay is actually growing faster than workers at the top and now that is obviously opposite to the way it's been in periods where job markets have been more slack where they've been less tight and the reason for that is that when job markets get as tight as they are now, and we actually have about the highest numbers of job openings on record. in fact, more trouble paintings that even our unemployed people, but when you get to that level of labor demand, workers have a lot more bargaining clout. that is at the core of the economics. strong bargaining cloud so we ensure working peop...

Look again. give me time. >> and also demonstrate that the concerns they have, you believe they are very real. you understand them. you feel them and you're trying to address them. that was somebody who had a positive take on the president and you could hear the resigned indifference to this moment, which is something i've been told by several white house officials they've seen in their polling that's been most concerning when they look at internal numbers. nothing breaks through because everyone is tuned out. even democrats who support the president. everybody is so exhausted. so tired and so...