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And that was months and months or even years. i'm angry, and i'm surprised that carter is not. he is a greater man than i, i think. this is sick and twisted stuff. like carter said to come up this gentleman who shall not be named has a reputation of being very pro-american and very patriotic. if, in fact, he was brought into this under false circumstances or false pretenses as well, he's the kind of guy that a deep state would target. >> well, the dossier was the basis for getting this. i don't care what people say, it was all a big lie. without that dossier, carter page would not have been su...

Think. this is sick and twisted stuff. like carter said to come up this gentleman who shall not be named has a reputation of being very pro-american and very patriotic. if, in fact, he was brought into this under false circumstances or false pretenses as well, he's the kind of guy that a deep state would target. >> well, the dossier was the basis for getting this. i don't care what people say, it was all a big lie. without that dossier, carter page would not have been surveilled in the fall of 2016. that would not have happened. they were running to that russian oligarch to get him involved. a...

Would not have been surveilled in the fall of 2016. that would not have happened. that's when they were running to that russian oligarch to try to get him involved. he is like i don't even like paul manafort, this is ridiculous. they were doing everything they could. they were working the page angle. they probably were working this informant angle and they brought you in, michael, which we will get you in a moment. but i want to play for you what sally asked, acting attorney general at the very beginning of the trump a administration, she's the one who was partly responsible for interviewing m...

I don't care what these people say. it was all a big lie. without this dossier carter page would not have been surveilled in the fall of 2016. that would not have happened. that's when they were running to that russian oligarch to try to get him involved. he is like i don't even like paul manafort, this is ridiculous. they were doing everything they could. they were working the page angle. they probably were working this informant angle and they brought you in, michael, which we will get you in a moment. but i want to play for you what sally asked, acting attorney general at the very beginning...