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but this source says that it was january 27th, after the request. what do you think of that discrepancy? they clearly have some explaining to do here. >> the secret service certainly has nor explaining to do. and the department of homeland security, which houses the secret service, really needs to take more of a leadership role in helping to manage this response to congress and get to the bottom of what has happened to these messages. i think congressional overseers at this point, what they really need to start asking from the secret service and from dhs is what are the steps that th...

Outcome of the trial will, the committee or the doj be interested any information bannon has about what the president was doing leading up to january 6th? >> nope. >> they don't think he is going to really say -- cooperate? >> well, look, the committee has said they're still interested, but they're not interested in participating in the spectacle of steve bannon testifying at a public hearing. we haven't seen any indication yet from doj that they are interested in talking to bannon. and of course they have seen in a number of cases previously what it is like to interact with bannon. so, you kn...

Szczerbi serving as don mcgahn's lawyer in the white house investigation, so that feels like an odd conflict. >> that could be called a dynamic all it's own, what is is broader strategy here, what is the implication and what about it showings the view of congress, and is this coming from the top of the white house or is this kind of a side deal with don mcgahn, the truth is at this hour, we don't know. let me be clear and fair, don mcgahn has every right to stem the bleeding in public from this briefing. he does have a legitimate argument to withhold some of the information bannon has with the...