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Investigating him. let the chips fall where they may, but the singular obsession, as i said before, they're in a bubble, and it causes them to lose. as everybody knows, the "new york post" is the official paper of "morning joe." i will say they got way ahead of themselves on durham's hilariously bad investigation just like the "wall street journal" and some op-ed writers. every time they go down this path and they want to investigate the investigators, they want to attack the fbi, they want to attack the cia, they want to attack the intel community, it never pays off for them. and jim, if you ...

Is that good enough? >> that is not how it works. you line up on the steps of the capital. you alternately republican, democrat, republican, democrat. people who have opposed each other, everybody does it. you say it clearly and you say it forcefully and you say it meaningfully. we do not support violence. it has no place. we will unite around us and we will take any steps necessary to prevent this from continuing. >> is that the answer? >> no. i'm sorry. it is way too far. online is an information desert for so many people. they are being flooded with that information. people that do not use ...

Republicans, it does seem that some of them were listening. that is hard problem, how to reach people who are in a different information bubble or who reject, you know, what's being told to them by even media like this one, or maybe even particularly media like this one. and so finding ways to reach them is something that a lot of politicians should be spending more time doing, and i was really glad to see the january 6th committee took that into account. they were trying to write the story, tell it in a way people could understand, and as i said, especially using the language of people who ha...

Comfortable? i think a little bit of vetting needs to go on here. we've heard from the baltic states that these people are so shielded in an information bubble by the russian regime, they don't know what's actually happening. confronting these people as they try to come in with the facts of what their country is doing is also in credibly important. >> we just heard kurt mention the fact that these people who are now being forced to fight in this unprovoked war, these are people who are newly into this, right? new personnel. we're also hearing reports that there are some without any military ex...

What does that tell you? >> it tells me that idea that fox is some sort of quasi right leaning journalistic organization during the day and right wing opinion at night, is completely not true. right. this is the entire operation at fox, and it has been amplified by a bunch of sort of fox like online versions of fox, is the goal is to create a hermetically sealed information bubble to dictate, to give people a specific alternative version of reality, alternative facts as kellyanne conway would say, for the purposes of motivating republican voters and winning elections. that is what it is. >> th...