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Then they assemble several thousand strong as the vanguard front line to smash our windows and to begin the attack on our police officers and never forget that 150 of our officers were hit in the face with baseball bats and hockey sticks and fire extinguishers and american flags and confederate battle flags. they started that, and then the larger demonstration, the outer ring became a mob involved in a riot, okay? so we got to look at the dynamics at the street level. so there's a lot more going on, but we have to put that whole thing together in a story, as adam kinzinger says, what led up to...

Nots are adherence to ideology. that's it. what if anything will break that cycle? >> all those other things -- >> i'm sorry. let me bring tim in, doctor. >> this is within people's control. it is hard at this late of date after the vaccine has been available for so long to believe that those who are dug in idea logically are going to change. i think there are still, you know, folks, who are, you know, just not consumers of news, not consumers of information, you know, who can still be reached who are outside of, you know, i think the high information bubbles. i think there are people that are...

>> the idea that people have been fed toxic information online and somehow convince themselves that nurses and doctors are the enemy to the point where they are willing to assault them or screaming at them at grocery stores. it goes back to those information bubbles and feeds that's corrupting and dropping toxic information in to this country. >> yeah, we had story last week from nbc about people plotting, coated patients from icu and showing videos and trying to train other people on how they can pull desperately ill patients out of icus. it's crazy. >> it's beyond crazy. >> you got to be so ...

Nothing about it but at the same time want to keep the president's fanatic base engaged. we'll look ahead to what's expected this weekend at the u.s. capitol. later in the show, nicki minaj triggering a conversation on vaccine hesitancy and the disinformation that's fueling it. the backlash highlighting the divided nation retreating to their information bubbles. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. break. don' t go any where. we did it again. verizon has been named america's most

Us throughout the course of the summer. >> dr. frederick, in effect, we're in this country living in information bubbles, right? one of those information bubbles, fed by some republican lawmakers and right-wing media peppers people, right, with disinformation about the vaccine itself. i'm curious, as a doctor, when you encounter that -- not as a doctor, but as a health official when you encounter that, how do you break through those bubbles? >> clarification, not a physician. >> i elevated you for the moment. given your experience in the health system, when you encounter that, how do you break...