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Fighting with. these people are not putting the public interest and american interest ahead of their own petty squabbles and ahead of just being normal functioning white house staff who care about what actually happens to the american people. >> you make a great point and i go to susan to close it out. help us, susan. i think what neer adjust said is significant. it is the pettiness of the information chain that we have. why do we know so much bad stuff about so many of these people? why did we know so much about jared kushner's conflicts of interest? if you read "fire and fury" or you look at...

We all play a role in this. oh, wait a minute. this is the first amendment. we're so concerned about the second amendment. this is the first amendment. this is freedom of speech. but you know what? i have a question tonight for our audience. when did the first amendment and responsibility part ways? when did the road split on the first amendment of the constitution and a responsibility to understand society and what's right and wrong? if you think as a parent this is good for your kid, you're wrong. it is not. oh, by the way, the guy that did the shooting yesterday, he was a big fan of this ki...

That hearing. congressman, thanks for being with us today. >> thank you, governor. >> mike: when you were in those hearings, i know you were there as a congressman, but you've had years of distinguished service record as a federal prosecutor. you're used to interrogating people. what is your sense how high up this information chain goes. >> it goes very high, to the highest levels of the state department. what you have is an unusual circumstance where you have strong misrepresentations on both sides of an incident. on the front end, whether or not they were aware, it made justice about the ent...

Transpired. >> reporter: well, people know alaska is big, but it is also sparsely populated. dillingham is an important fishing community, but the number of people there would be in the low thousands if that, and there is probably no road that can be followed, so if the aviation conditions were poor for helicopters and fixed winged aircraft to fly by and drop somebody, it would be hard to get there. although we did have an earlier report that some so-called samaritans had showed up. we have a report about sean o'keefe being on the flight, but what's your understanding as to the information cha...

With violence. clearly targeting civilians with violence. it was a political end? we don't know. probably yes, ma'am. >> i think one of the big problems is you have an information chain that is somewhat stunted. i think you have secretary napolitano saying one thing the attorney general saying another thing and now the white house conflicting with those earlier reports. most important, especially in a crisis to, make sure there is a unified chain of command, the information coming from one spot. seems like in this instance, it was all over the place and created a little bit of competition betw...